Generally speaking, there's a slight difference in what those two focus on. No experience here, so let me know in the comments if they really fare better than the legendary First Lite quality. Colorado Elk Hunt Sitka or Kuiu or First Lite. The Arcteryx Zeta is a bit quieter because it uses a different material, a c-knit backer which really is a bit quieter than regular arcteryx goretex 10-20-2019, 04:04 PM #16 twoSevenO It delaminated around the neck and seam on the hem and cuffs fell apart. Posts: 4,760. sw iowa. First lite has been ok. So many different combos to layer up or shed layers when you need to. I prefer the fit of all first lite though. While Sitka does excellent in wind and rain, First Lite fair better in breathability. UA is just well marketed polo long underwear. I think its just the personal fit that I'm having issue with. I have a FL vapor jacket and sitka dewpoint pants. Sitka Vs First Lite. I wouldn't mind upgrading them but First Lite's lighter weight rain gear is still heavier and costs a few hundred bucks for something I probably won't wear. What is so special about Sitka Gear? First Lite vs. Sitka: Which One Is Better? Excellent input on both brands here. Finding the right hunting gear is essential, but it's often difficult to choose between all of the options you have available. 13-Jan-18 My take; I think if you are strictly a whitetail hunter the Kuiu/sitka stuff is overkill. The first lite corrugate pants are the most durable out of the bunch, sitka the least. Joined Mar 21, 2014 . Just a note if are over 6 ft and need tall sizes KUIU and first lite have no option . Both work great and I am happy with them for . They charge at least as much as Sitka for the same stuff (just non-camo). Joined Feb 13, 2012 . Sitka definitely feels more durable - especially their mountain pants or merino shirts. SITKA Gear Men's Heavyweight Hunting Performance Hoody. Re: First Lite vs Sitka vs Arcteryx. Look at the prices for Mountain Hardwear, Arc'teryx, Marmot, etc. First Lite Men's Wick Hoody. 151. My third and final reason why you should consider quitting camouflage is to regain the options you once had in the good old days when everyone had the same patterns on their apparel. That was the biggest factor to me on the difference. I look at it as an investment and the amount of years you can wear it because it's quality. Sitka also uses silver in its fabric for scent control. I wear champion boxers or the long fruit of the loom. The sitka is a little louder than the FL and beads up water longer and fabric has a bit of "crinkle" to it. In the last few years, you've seen brands like Sitka be leaders in the category of "solids." My dad was using Sitka and First Light gear and was trying to convince me to go that route. Sitka leaves a little more space under its clothes for layers, since its built for colder temperatures. Those are small differences, and overall you will find good fit with both brands. First Lite,Sitka,KuiuAny advantages or disadvantages to one or the other? They put more thought into the stuff that actually makes a difference than anyone else. BUT I do believe that Sitka is a better designed higher quality item. Sitka is expensive no doubt but it's all great. Sitka is anti-O&G - imagine the hypocrisy - their merchandise is made from and with the help of hydrocarbons. Not the best for hunting if you need to stay quiet. Vapor Stormlight Ultra-Light ($240.00) Kelvin Puff Hoodie Jacket ($199.95) Alpine Ops Parka ($280.00) There is a fairly large gap from Mossy Oak to Killik, then from Killik to Kryptek. I've seen Sitka work like magic, but I can't handle the weight and bulkiness of their gear for my style of backcountry hunting. And sitka if youre on a budget but still want the quality gear. Sitka, First Lite or Others vs burrs. Sitka is the first to put a camo pattern on mountain- built clothing. Because we live in a capitalist economy (thank god) and folks are willing to pay what Sitka is asking. Location. Ultralight 150gsm jersey knit fabric for hot weather. I also like the finish on the first lite better. I used Sitka for a while until their price went up and quality went down. Sitka tops are shorter than I like. Another vote for First Lite Uncompaghre. SITKA Gear Men's Ascent Breathable 4-Way Stretch Hunting Pant. My favorite pieces are the Kuiu merino zip off long johns,, they are incredible for walking to a stand on a cold morning. I couldnt decide on what to go with. Both seem to cater to the short and stout. I like the SG Chinook a lot as a base layer, followed by First Lite Aerowool. Re: First Lite vs Sitka vs Arcteryx. I prefer the thicker fabric of the Kuiu attack pants . Spencer Neuharth of MeatEater chat with us on the differences on his experiences with both SITKA Gear and First Lite. Kuiu is manufacturer direct. #6. Reactions: Tac284. The Kenai will breathe better when active but also provide some insulation when still. Reply. Specifically the first lite corrugate foundry's. . Sitka and First Lite are the two most durable of the big three mountain hunting brands in my opinion. Love The Kyptek pattern, don't care for the fit or current materials. Kuiu Ultra Merino 145 288. In preparation for a backcountry elk hunt next year, I have bought a combination of first lite, kuiu, and Sitka. The First Lite Uncompahgre Puffy is a great jacket for a heavier synthetic. Mar 6, 2014. If you want to use First Lite as outerwear, they are decent at treestands and pretty good for western big game. Kuiu is probably best if you want ultralight. Thread starter Matt Foley; Start date Apr 11, 2019; Apr 11, 2019 #1 Matt Foley Member. The use of merino and their 37.5 technology allows the hunter to stay warm when needed and cool when needed. Sitka and First lite pants fabric seems too thin to me. That said I still own pieces from both companies. Kuiu runs small - and although I want to say an "athletic fit," I'd kinda rather say NOT athletic - as I think of big arms and chest and thighs when I think athletic, and those are the tightest fitting areas in Kuiu. Sitka vs Kuiu gear: General construction. The laminate was delaminating on the inside where they didn't tape edges of laminated pieces (they only taped sewn seams), the elbow pads that are glued on were also coming off. I have first lite stuff. And yes I do own Sitka, First Lite, Kuiu, and Eddie. I've seen the same sentiment echoed by . Kuiu 125 and 145 Merino Fit: Both products also came with an athletic cut and fit perfectly in a size large. I think that is a big difference in the feel - First lite definitely resists holding smell better. The incinerators act like Velcro to every briar and stick tight you encounter; the sanctuary's do not. Kuiu gear for pants, jackets, and rain gear. In fact, I'd say they creep. I had to layer up more with first light. Really dislike Sitka's camo patterns and honestly FL is quieter on stand and ground. Dec 16, 2018. They KUIU Super down would be a better comparison and might be slightly warmer. Each brand has several types of coats, pants, shirts, and hats. Eddie Bauer has everything you need from base to rain wear no matter if you are 5'4" and 250lb, or 6'3" and 160lb. First Lite's sizing does tend to run a little large so trying on what you like prior to purchasing is a big plus with regard to First Lite and Sitka. I have a pair of similar style pants from Cabelas that were $75 that I hardly wear anymore because the Wranglers are better. 1,411. The vapor is a softer more supple fabric that wets out quick but also dries out quick, stays waterproof. Break it down that way and it becomes not so pricey anymore Ishi Every Two Year Election Covid Variant May 11, 2017 #6 Re: First Lite vs Sitka vs Arcteryx Arcteryx will be built better than all of those and likely last longest. From this past year I notice Sitka is holding up a little better and keeps the stink down way better than Kuiu. Posts: 3,844. The Frogg Toggs are not breathable like the nice rain gear from FL or Sitka but since I don't really use it the better performance is inconsequential. Texas. Sitka, in my opinion, is one of the better options out there for western hunts. The lightweight insulation stuff is hard to beat as well. The truth is; the materials Sitka gear is made of is used, with equal performance, by many other manufacturers. Ive found its hard to compare there puffys because they all use different fills. First Lite raingear (storm tight) didn't do shit where I play in the PNW/. Sitka's Gore-Tex products are designed to be highly breathable. Sitka and Kuiu performed excellent. Used to be a Kuiu fanboy, but then I realized that it was a lot less warm, and less water proof than what Kuiu would like you to believe. 21-Aug-15. 843. Kinda disappointed but at the same time I love them. They said their 'lifetime' expectancy on a $700 jacket was 5-6 years!!! Never used to like Sitka, but it seems like they are making better. I have had both. - First Lite does feel better against the skin and feels less synthetic. I like the Sitka Heavyweight Hoodie and the Kuiu Peloton 240 for mid layers. Location: Kansas. . It's made for pretty much stand hunting only. From: BUGLELK. 26-Jul-10. Comparing some of the qualities of First Lite and Sitka, two of the best in the buisness First lite corrugate guide pants and Kuiu attack pants for typical weather. 4.8 out of 5 stars. When I went on my first elk trip to Colorado last year, I was in the same situation as you. Monitor Camofire.com, blackovis, and a few others for off-season sales. There aren't any resellers with better prices. I think first lite base layers are better and sitka gear is laid out better than first lite. The use of stretch nylon 6/6, TPU coating, and Kuiu DWR treatment help provide durability without the extra weight or use of spandex. 26-Jul-10. Also, NEVER pull a loose thread on a First Lite garment. Fit: First Lite has a slightly tighter fit than Sitka, making it better for overall mobility. I think they lean on merino wool a lot more than sitka does, even in their blends. my buddy seems to have had much better experience with kuiu fwiw . Reelamin Well-Known Member. 5'10" 205 lbs 30" waist so not a large person by any means. The grey in the fanatic series from sitka has a really blue hue to it. I have a variety of items from almost all of these, more of Kuiu than any other. Eddie Bauer makes a couple of really nice grid fleeces that are great budget options (relatively inexpensive anyway). This is due to the excellent breathability created with this technology. That said, I've seen a few people complain about the quality of stitching and overall durability compared to Sitka. 04-Oct-21. I just went through the whole rigamarole with Arc'teryx. Number 3: Options, Options, and More Options. I like the fit of first lite and kuiu better, I'm 6'2" - 215lbs. The "best" spruce was Adirondack or red spruce - thats what the great guitars of the Golden era were topped with. SITKA Gear Men's Core Midweight Zip-T Long Sleeve Hunting Shirt.. 4.7 out of 5 stars. That was until I saw the prices. I personally have several pieces of Sitka gear in the whitetail line, everything from early season to late season and feel that it is some of the best one can buy. This is another gripe I have with FL. Apr 11, 2019 #6 N. ntodwild The Kenai will not be as warm as the Uncompahgre. Both are nice but I like a little looser fit in the quads for pants. Their sizing is the same as the military and . In order to have warmth and waterproof the Sitka incinerator (goretex and down/primaloft mix) set would be the best but very pricey (about $1200 retail for jacket and bib. I normally wear Sitka apex pants or Kuiu tiburon pants in hot weather. They offered me a 50% discount on a new Jacket. Five year old jacket that was well cared for. Light patterns always seem to perform better in every environment as the biggest giveaway is the side of a person opposite of the sun (but not necessarily skylined). Fits perfect! KUIU advertises they are not to be associated with big brands because they don't sell to and let their business be run by big retail stores and investors - they are a family business. Replies 22 . Sitka is superior. First Lite Rain Gear vs Kuiu vs UA vs Sitka. Both are top notch. Spencer elaborates to tell us why First. Joined: Jan 2013. Kuiu quix down, sitka primaloft, first lite downtrek. #2. Sitka is no better than gear that can be had for half the price. I few ounces heavier than the lightest down puffy but still packs into its own pocket and worth its weight in the warmth it provides without any doubt. The warmth from sitka is also better. I prefer merino for a base layer, First Lite merino is my favorite, but Sitka and . Mainly because I liked the camo better. Kuiu, but from what I understand, it is geared more toward the western hunter, i.e., no tree stands. First Lite boxers don't feel any different than a typical boxer to me. I prefer merino for a base layer, First Lite merino is my favorite, but Sitka and kuiu have great merino as well. 221 offers from $124.99. Most people agree deer see vlue really well. The Sitka Kelvin, Superdown and Uncompahgre will be fairly equivalent as well as some others from the non-hunting companies. First lite fits better for normal sized people. Today, we're going to cover two popular hunting gear brands, and by the end of our guide, you'll know which one is right for you. It is important to note that we do know this is not the perfect test. Thanks to more advanced materials, Kuiu seems to be a little bit more durable than First Lite. Gummybear763; Dec 15, 2018; 2. First light was measurably quiet..er.. than sitka. Basically if sitka could have a better camo pattern and be less noisy when moving they'd be superior. I'm 5'11 155lbs and their mediums fit me perfectly. Price: First Lite gear is usually 10-20% cheaper than Sitka. I made a point to compare similar layers after 1 day each on a very late winter/early . 8/26/2019. Fairbanks Area. Re: First Lite vs Sitka vs Arcteryx Originally Posted by ryanb Yes it was defective. 138 offers from $118.80. Sitka vs first lite vs kuiu. From: standswittaknife. Sizing is a bit larger and relaxed fit. It seems like sitka has more sales so its easier to find them for cheaper. Is there one you guys prefer or dislike for any particular reason. 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